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Friday, 31 October 2008
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Washington Times:

SAMARRA, Iraq | In a blunt assessment, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, Army Gen. Raymond Odierno, said Thursday that there is a 20 percent to 30 percent chance that the United States and Iraq won't reach a deal to allow U.S. troops to operate in Iraq past Dec. 31.

On a scale of one to 10, "I'm probably a seven or eight that something is going to be worked out," Gen. Odierno told The Washington Times during a visit to the 101st Airborne Division in Samarra, about 120 miles north of Baghdad. "I think it's important for the government of Iraq. I think it's important for security and stability here."

But how important is it for our national interest? We have constantly confused Iraq's national interest with our own.

Massoud Barzani, the president of the Kurdish Regional Government, told The Times on Wednesday evening that he would be happy to host U.S. troops if the central government in Baghdad refuses to do so.

"The people of Kurdistan highly appreciate the sacrifices American forces have made for our freedom," Mr. Barzani said at a reception in Washington after meetings with President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

As we have said all along, if the US were to support an independent Kurdistan on condition that they allow a US base and sanctuary for Iraqi Christians, that could be a relatively stable situation long-term.  Iraq will never be an true ally and will never allow our unlimited use of the bases we have built there.

Posted on 10/31/2008 7:12 AM by Rebecca Bynum
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31 Oct 2008
Hugh Fitzgerald

What exactly would American bases in Iraq be for? If, according to the terms demanded by the Iraqi government, and hysterically supported by people in Iraq (not "the Iraqi people"), such bases could not be used for attacks on other countries -- such as Iran, such as Syria -- then what are those bases for? Are the Americans to remain there, at great expense, exhausting an American military already desperate for troops (and trying to get former Reservists and National Guardsmen who have left to come back, to please come back one more time), in order not to project power in the Middle East, but merely to intervene to keep the Iraqi government afload against its domestic enemies, or possibly to serve as "peacekeepers" to ensure that sectarian and ethnic troubles do not get out of hand? 

Is that a sensible thing for the American military to do? Is that a sensible use of its officers and men, and of another two-three hundred billion dollars that is spent every year now in that "ungrateful volcano" (Churchill's perfect phrase  describing Mesopotamia, circa 1920) in Iraq? 

The Bush Adminisetration and its loyalists have always assumed, and always allowed it  to be known, that they were absolutely confident that they could build a half-dozen mega-bases, and have apparently done so or at least almost completed them, bases that they blandly assumed would be under t permanent American control, and so useful for "projecting American power all over the Middle East."

It was never to be, and that was said here before -- it would never be.

And it will never be, because the Muslims of Iraq, or their various factions and groups, once they were done using the Americans for their own purposes, would never allow them to fulfill their own, American, plans.

There is no surprise here. If there is surprise and disappointment in the Pentagon or anywhere else in the government, that is because Islam, and Muslim minds and hearts, have not been understood.



31 Oct 2008
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A Frog He Would Agincourtin' Go
Or: Garcon, A Toad, Tout De Suite!
Or: Let Me Be Feringji
Or: Forty Million Frenchmen Can't Be Wrong All Of The Time
Or: Scouring The Net For Questionable Pumices
Or: Hoping Hope Floats
Or: Isle Of Despair & Gilligan
Or: By The Skin Of Our gNashing Teeth & Fleet 
 
Once again Mr. Fitzgerald has sent a befuddled Reader onto the playing fields of Etymology where one learns -I swear- Wullah Bullah - Upon my beard - that the motto of Paris, Fluctuat nec mergitur, is derived from the grudging respect of her English enemies who observed that, "Like some edible amphibian, Paris never sinks, but stays afload."
 
Meanwhile, Sarkozy's stock in tirade, which rose when denouncing riots described by others as committed by "troubled youth", only to fall when recently calling for affirmative action to integrate France's fedayeen into the ranks of the feringji, ticked up a tad when speaking from the wasteland of the West, he disparaged Obama's hollow mien:
 
Ah well, we should be grateful for the occasional and low piquancy small flavors from the French political palate (not to be confused with Noemie Nioche's small pallet which was small beer to Christopher Newman).  Winston Churchill should have been grateful* to Lord Byron because the former's "ungrateful volcano" cometh -Wullah Bullah - from the later's fiery imagination which produced "Islam's lava."
 
*  It is likely that after our November elections many of us will be crying in our bier as control of the helm of our Narrenschiff is taken by a way-beyond-Keynes** Kenyan, and won't feel particularly thankful on this upcoming Thanksgiving Day, but I would be ever so grateful if Paul Blaskowicz would republish (as he is well aware, it is difficult to search NER archives for comments) Ogden Nash's poem about being grateful for Lepanto.
 
** Holiday Cheer from Maynard "G. Krebs" Keynes and the atheists:  In the long run, we are [probably] dead.
 


31 Oct 2008
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Hopping To It & Hoping You Didn't Notice
Or: Death By Drowning In A "P" Of Errors
Or: After The First "P" There Is No Other
 
Oopsies - It comes swimmingly to mind that although the second "p" is silent as in "pseudo intellectual" or "swimming," hoping should have read hopping.





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