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Thursday, 22 January 2009
A Nation of Christians and Muslims? Bookmark and Share

In his Inaugural Address our new president described the United States as “a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and non-believers.” As a graduate of Harvard Law School and a former editor of the Harvard Law Review, President Obama, knows the significance of words and the order in which they appear. Given his superb legal training, he knew exactly what he was doing. In a subtle but effective way, he has rejected the idea of America as a Judeo-Christian civilization and replaced it with the idea of America as a Christian-Muslim civilization, while providing himself with the necessary deniability should this newly formulated coincidentia oppositorum (union of opposites) yield too much outrage. The mainstream Jewish organizations cannot be counted on to protest, especially in this time of new-president euphoria. Hopefully, when the euphoria cools, Evangelical Christians will do so. Unfortunately, all too many liberal Christians and liberal Jews ignore or are ignorant of the fact that for Islam religion is a zero-sum game. There is no middle way. Our new president has tried to unite incompatible opposites that have a 1400 year history of irreconcilable conflict. By his deliberately chosen choice of words, he has given a place at the table to some Muslim organizations that do not assign a very high priority to America's national interests and have Islamists sympathies. This is a pity because Barack Obama is the only president we've got and he should have left this issue for another day. He can get away with it now, but, nota bene, it should be remembered. In the history of religion, even small shifts of a letter or an accent can result in long-term consequences, as was evident long ago in the debate at the Council of Nicea (325 C.E.) over whether Christ was homoousias ("of the same essence with the Father") or homoiousias ("of like essence with the Father".) 

Posted on 01/22/2009 12:59 PM by Richard L. Rubenstein
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22 Jan 2009
Hugh Fitzgerald

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024513.php#more



22 Jan 2009
Send an emailRichard L Rubenstein

I wish to acknowledge my indebtedness to Hugh Fitzgerald's contribution on this issue in today's Jihad Watch. As he comments it is accessible at http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024513.php#more.



22 Jan 2009
Paul Blaskowicz

In the history of religion, even small shifts of a letter or an accent can result in long-term consequences, as was evident long ago in the debate at the Council of Nicea (325 C.E.) over whether Christ was homoousias ("of the same essence with the Father") or homoiousias ("of like essence with the Father".) 

And the filioque clause which caused the rift between the Western Church and the Orthodox.  Here we see that what  - sans doute  - proceeded from Obama  père proceeds also from Obama fils.  Let's hope his next big speech isn't addressed to   "A  nation of Muslims and Christians..."  Hugh's article at Jihadwatch -wonderful.



23 Jan 2009
John M. J.

Excellent post. One query - would you classify modalism, in its modern (note, not modernist but modern) form as heresy? I know that some hold the view that modern modalistic speculations are nothing more than patripassianism, but patripassianism is a widespread viewpoint about The Passion amongst Christians of all persuasions today and it's very difficult to argue against given the Church's approach to the Trinity in these modern times.

Yes, yes. I know that you are going to say that this is all about words and splitting hairs and that you covered all this with your reference to the Council of Nicea in 325AD, but you didn't! You merely mocked the importance of language and precise meaning - you made light of the words and stated an ancient pun (well,almost a pun) but you did not address the issue and you did not address the ongoing argument.

Are you a modernist or aren't you? Where do you stand with respect to the debate about patripassionistic beliefs? Why do you believe, as you obviously do, that these issues are merely a matter of semantics rather than deeply held religious convictions and differences?

Your post raises more questions - vital and important questions - about Christian belief than it answers. Do tell us where you stand. It's only fair that you do since you, all unwittingly, raised those ancient questions.

Bravo, but more, with more detail, please!






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