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Monday, 10 August 2009
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Generally we are not allowed to mention Muslims or Islam when talking about the threat from Islam or Muslims. We must couch it in euphemisms like "youths" (of any age) "extremists-of-any-religion-Christians-are-just-as-bad" or "Asians". Recently a Government initiative did mention Muslims, with predictable results.

Prevent, a Government scheme for "tackling extremism", involved giving money to "moderate" Imams and mosques in the hope that they would tackle the "extremism" in their midst. Given that nearly all successful and failed terrorists in the UK are Muslim, this would seem only reasonable. Surely "extremism" is a misunderstanding of the true Islam, and the "moderate" Muslim community should be only too pleased to root it out?

Far from it. Muslims feel "singled out". Singling out the single group from which danger comes is wrong, apparently. It may alienate the Muslim community, and we know what alienation can do to a Muslim. So let's pretend. Let's pretend that there are lots of equally dangerous "communities" hell bent on "extremism". Put Muslims in among other groups and render them harmless.

More limp-wristed nonsense from this terminally idiotic Government:

The Government’s flagship scheme on tackling extremism is alienating Muslim communities and should be scrapped according to a new report. The New Local Government Network (NLGN) think tank is calling for the £45million scheme to focus on tackling all extremism – including far-right extremists – rather than just focusing on Islamic extremism.

The Government set up the Prevent scheme in 2006 to help local councils to tackle violent extremism at a local level. Currently 94 local authorities receive funding from the scheme. NLGN’s independent report argues that whilst the scheme has helped in some areas, overall it risks alienating some local communities and particularly Muslim communities.

The report calls for the Government to allocate resources to tackle all extremist ideologies, arguing that the recent increase in far-right extremism is as much of as a challenge for local communities as Islamic extremism. In July this year Scotland Yard warned that far-right extremists are planning a “spectacular” terrorist attack in Britain to try to stoke racial tensions and that more resources need to be targeted to tackle this form of extremism.

It also calls for reform of the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) to allow an expert on ‘home-grown’ terrorism to sit on the Committee. It suggests that the Communities and Local Government department should have a permanent seat on the JIC alongside the seven other government departments on the Committee and that experienced local authority Chief Executives should be consulted when assessing potential security risks.

Author of the report, Anna Turley argues that reform of Prevent is vital to rebuilding confidence within local communities:

“While Islamist extremism remains a very serious threat to our security, this kind of extremism is not the only threat to the stability and security of our communities.”

“Prevent is too prescriptive from the centre, undermines broader community cohesion objectives and lacks sufficient integration with police and security services at local and national level. Concern has also been acknowledged over the agenda’s impact on relations with Muslim communities and whether it unfairly stigmatises an entire community.”

While it is too early to assess the success of the Prevent agenda in terms of outcomes, the lack of support from within the Muslim community, as well as the changing threat of wider extremist voices mean that it is time to review whether the separation of the Preventing Violent Extremism approach from wider community cohesion approaches is still relevant.”

 

Dozy bint. And what terrible English, sloshing around like a wet dishcloth. What use is a wet dishcloth against the sword of Islam?  

 

Posted on 08/10/2009 4:45 AM by Mary Jackson
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10 Aug 2009
Robin Huson

Of course we are now waiting with bated breath to hear who the police has arrested following the "disturbances" in Birmingham over the weekend. We know how many so far: 35. No names.

 After the Danish Embassy protests a few years ago when a small army of "British" muslims and "asylum seekers" were chanting for beheadings, rivers of  blood and a rain of bombs to fall on London, the police didnt arrest a soul on that occasion . So Birmingham must have been quite a protest. Right? 



10 Aug 2009
wtf

How curious that there are communities within the community as a whole.

I had assumed (but then I am not a progressive socialist, so I wouldn't know) that the word community referred to something that is common to all. Communal, I guessed. A common purpose, though I am told it is from the Latin 'communitas' suggesting a fellowship.

But the fact there are separate communities that must be addressed specially (and carefully, in case they roar into flames at the very idea they need to be looked at, other than in being given large handouts of infidel money) and a community that must be preserved as a distinct, separate whole is, frankly, disturbing.

We have a law of the land, complete with a judicial system, a parliament (albeit currently holding a crop of corrupted self-servers) a monarch and, once, a way of life in which the community of citizens was equally served.

But now we have communities who disagree with the communal whole, and therefore need to be addressed separately. Given special privileges lest they cry foul; a religion that seeks division yet screams "racist!" when there is no race involved. We are scared they may be even more incited to kill innocents, so they must be soothed and placated.

But then the socialists and social-engineers will turn on the majority and say it is us at fault: we are not conforming to this new world, that we mistakenly cling to an outmoded idea.

So we have no fellowship now, because some fellows believe their fellows (no matter how bloodthirsty or unreasonable) in other places are always right no matter what harm they do, how many they kill because their deity demands it but can't manage it on His own, how many schoolgirls must have acid in their faces for daring to learn, how many briefly-free women must die to save "honour"

So here the communities must be distinct and whole and preserved, even if it is the fault of those of us who thought – stupidly and ignorantly, we now discover – our "leaders" would see what we do; that the fellowship of one community was what we most need.

And thanks to our preening, pompous and ignorant elected ones, will never have again.



10 Aug 2009
Send an emailGeorge McCallum

"What use is a wet dishcloth against the sword of Islam?"

Mopping up the blood?



10 Aug 2009
Send an emailJohny

Click on the video to the right. It is from the 2008 Global Peace and Unity Conference and features a Labour Muslim MP crowing about Islam's success peppered with "inshallahs". This was supressed, but has now become available. You have some predators in your parliament

http://www.pointdebasculecanada.ca/article/1158-les-islamistes-de-cair-can-leurs-collaborateurs-et-une-organisation-financee-par-vos-impocircts-le-center-for-faith-and-the-media-par-david-b-harris.php



11 Aug 2009
dumbledoresarmy

 "Prevent".

It sounds like it ought to be the name of a brand of condom.

In Terry Pratchett's early Discworld novel, 'Equal Rites', there is a witch who explains that there would be many a family bigger - and poorer - were it not for "Madame Goatfounder's Pennyroyal Preventatives".

Joking aside: I wonders, oh I wonders what would happen if, the very next time Muslims in the UK were caught plotting jihad, the government were to calmly and coldly *reduce* by at least half the amount of aid given to the Muslim country associated with said Muslims (if of foreign birth or ancestry) and also *reduce* the amount of money thrown at this or that Muslim 'community organisation'?  And let it be known that the next such plot that is discovered, or worse, achieved, will result in the complete cessation of all aid to every Muslim country, and the cessation of funding to all Muslim NGOs within Britain.  Just like that.



11 Aug 2009
Send an emailMary Jackson

It sounds like it ought to be the name of a brand of condom.

Very true. And yes, I agree, no more jizyah.






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