31 Dec 2011
Eliyahu
I agree with Emmet Scott in general about the disastrous impact of the Arab/Muslim invasion on the Middle East and North Africa and on civilization in general. Moreover, to use currently fashionable terminology, traditional Arab/Muslim society was an occupation regime. Consider the importance of jizya as well as kharaj [a tax specifically on agricultural land, on farmers]. Living off of the conquered peoples --who were not Muslim initially-- was the rule in Muslim lands up to when non-Muslim powers conquered or exerted influence in favor of non-Muslim subject peoples, the dhimmis. And as Scott says, there was tremendous pressure to convert in order to escape exploitation, humiliation and oppression. But as the dhimmi part of the population was reduced by conversion and other ways, the Muslims could no longer depend on the dhimmis for support. And on their own, Muslims have seldom been able to build prosperous economies, certainly not without dhimmis.
I think that it can fairly be said Islam brought down civilization in the conquered lands and it still impedes development in the Islamic world.
My disagreement with Scott is that the final destruction of the irrigation systems in North Africa and the Middle East came several centuries after the conquest. In NA, this destruction is often attributed to the Bani Hilal tribe who migrated westward from Egypt about the 11th century [maybe 10th or 12th], in huge numbers, wrecking the foggaras of the water system on their way. They were followed by another tribe maybe a century later which finished the work.
In Mesopotamia, with a prosperous agriculture between the two rivers, many of the farmers Jews, the ancient irrigation system was wrecked not by Arabs but by the later Mongol invaders. But subsequent Muslim rulers never rebuilt the ancient irrigation works. So I am sure that agriculture started to sharply decline when the jizya and kharaj were imposed, yet the final blow to irrigation came a few centuries after the conquest.
By the way, the American agronomist and water supply specialist, Walter Clay Lowdermilk, wrote a book reacing similar conclusions to Scott's about agriculture, although in gentler terms than Scott expresses. Lowdermilk's book was specifically about Israel [Palestine, Land of Promise]. But I feel that in 2011/2012, it is too late to state these matters gently.
31 Dec 2011
Steven Zoraster
The Camel and the Wheel by Bulliet also addresses the issue of the disappearnce of the wheel from the Middle East.
10 Jan 2012
Zahir
Destruction of Indic civilisation by the invading Muslim hordes has been on gargantuan proportions. The most devastating consequence has been, not the killings of millions of non-Muslims (although this in itself was undeniably a genocide), but the conversion (forced, bribed but seldom voluntary) of non-Muslims to Islam.
We are all feeling the effect of this devastating legacy today. It resulted not only in division of the lands where once a more advanced and tolerant Indic civilisation held sway, the destruction of its literature, science and religion, but also in contribution to the world’s Muslim population. If figures are to be believed, it contributed over fifty percent of today’s entire global Muslim population. Think of the Muslim population of Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia and many other countries east of the river Indus who can trace their ancestry back to Hindu or Buddhism less than four centuries ago.
The second wave of Islamic invasion is now underway, but this time much more away West from Indus.