Some belated reports from the Australian front: 4 - Muslim 'refugees' in detention centre persecute other, non-Muslim refugees

 From the ABC's Jennifer Macey.

www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/25/3076855.htm

'Religious "bullying" among Christmas Island detainees

(Observe that the headline obscures the fact that this is not about a tit for tat situation, two groups slinging off at each other; this is, if one reads the story, about Muslims and Muslims only, initiating attacks upon others who then may or may not respond in self-defence. - CM).

'An Iraqi asylum seeker being detained on Christmas Island says he is living in fear that he will be targeted by other detainees because of his religious beliefs.

'In Iraq, life is getting harder for believers in faiths other than Islam.

(Congratulations, Ms Macey, on telling the truth.  Keep your attention firmly fixed on that uncomfortable fact; think about it; do some research, and you may find that this is not just something that some Muslims are doing in Iraq at the present moment, but that it is what Muslims do to non-Muslims everywhere that Muslims feel strong enough to do as they wish. - CM).

'At the end of last month, an attack on Iraq's dwindling Christian community left 58 people dead and Al Qaeda has warned that more killings would follow.

'Another victimised minority are the Sabian Mandaean, whose followers revere John the Baptist.

'Some have fled to Australia and now a Mandaean detainee on Christmas Island fears that the persecution has followed him here.

'Salah Azuhari, 45, fled from his village in southern Iraq because of religious persecution.

'Speaking through ABC local radio's Hana Vieva, Mr Azuhari said the other Iraqi detainees (who, one must assume, are all Muslims - CM) have bullied him.

'They told him he had no right to sit with them, eat with them, be in their presence.  And they said that because of his religious belief he has no right to live in Iraq or anywhere else", Ms Vieva said. "He's been on the run since Iraq and Jordan and he feels like he's still on the run even though he's in Australia".  

(Are you listening, persons in charge of Foreign Affairs and Immigration?  These Muslims in detention on Christmas Island, who are hellbent on getting into Australia, have openly told a non-Muslim fellow detainee - who is fleeing from murderous Muslim persecution in Iraq - that they, the Muslims, do not regard him as having a right to life 'anywhere else' - in other words, they fully intend to go on persecuting him on Australian soil.  Why, why, why are we even considering the claims for 'asylum' made by Muslims who speak and act like this? Who clearly proclaim their every intention of treating non-Muslims in Australia exactly as they have treated them in Iraq and in other places where Muslims dominate?  Or will we have to wait until a group of jihadists to walk into a church in Australia and throw grenades and spray the congregation with bullets, before someone will admit there is a problem? - CM).

'Mr Azuhari has been in detention on Christmas Island for one month.  He says his family in Iraq were tortured by the Mehdi army and the Badr forces, a political party.  He and his family were tortured, his family was bombed.  His uncle received a nail to his head. "So they basically bashed a nail through his [the uncle's] brain.  He was subsequently kidnapped, tortured, and put around dead bodies, other dead bodies," the interpreter said.  "They're basically seen as sinners.  They're looked upon as Christians and Jews by the fundamental Muslims.  So they're tortured because they're sinners".

'The Mandaeans are pacifists and their religion prevents them from taking part in protests.

'Mr Azuhari says that is why he refused to go on a hunger strike to protest against the death of an Iraqi detainee in Villawood. "He is a law-abiding citizen who follows the rules.  He's doing that in the detention centre", Ms Vieva said. "He's isolated and he's isolated himself because he fears.  He has been threatened to be killed while he sleeps.  He feels that the situation in the detention centre is like, exactly the situation in Iraq."

(And when this poor man gets to mainland Australia, if offered asylum, what will he find? Large and increasingly-aggressive colonies of Muslims, in Sydney and in Melbourne, whining about 'discrimination' and 'racism' and demanding special treatment...all the while a significant percentage of their number persistently flout Australian law in all aspects great and small.  His persecutors have preceded him, and established themselves. - CM).

'Immigration Department spokeswoman Sandi Logan says the Department is not aware of any complaints being made but if there were serious concerns to a client's ongoing welfare the Department would consider moving them.

"It's also an opportunity for people who do believe they have a strong claim to remain in Australia to begin to live with Australian values and to live under Australian norms", she said.

"This means that where there is inter-faith conflict that it is resolved in a peaceful and amicable way".

(My dear Ms Logan. This is not 'inter-faith conflict' any more than the jihadist massacre of unarmed Christians - priests, women, elderly people, little babies - in the church in Baghdad was 'inter-faith conflict'.  This is Muslims, out of the blue, threatening and attacking a non-Muslim simply and solely because the non-Muslim is there and is a non-Muslim. He has not done a thing to the Muslims, except that he is breathing-while-Mandaean.  This is not a brawl between two equally aggressive parties.  This is a group of ruthless bullies targeting someone who has not offended them at all, someone who does not want a fight, who simply wants to get away.  Ms Logan, your specious moral equivalencing of the Muslim bullies and their victim is disgusting.  And if you think the Muslims will shed their attempt to enforce the domination of Islam over all other belief systems, once they step foot on Australian soil, and that they will learn to resolve 'conflict' peacefully and amicably, your naivety astounds me - CM).

'That is certainly the training that our staff have but, as I say, these [incidents?] are quite rare.  They are not common in immigration detention'. (Possibly because practically all of the 'refugees' are Muslims, since the real refugees, the Christians and others, are usually too poor to pay people-smugglers, or because the people-smuggler networks are primarily run for Muslims, by Muslims? - CM).

'But former Human Rights commissioner Sev Ozdowski says this is not the first incident of religious bullying. ('Religious bullying'.  Translation: Muslim detainees attacking non-Muslim detainees - CM).

'In 2003 Amnesty International made a complaint to the Human Rights Commission on behalf of a female Mandaean who says she was sexually harassed while in detention.  Mr Ozdowski says Mandaeans often suffer "double punishment".

"They were quite often regarded as unclean, as unable to meet with other Muslims". ('Other Muslims'?  Mr Ozdowski, do you not know that the Mandaeans are not Muslim at all, but an entirely different religion, pre-dating Islam? - CM).

"They were ostracised.  There were cases of harassment.  There was a case of alleged rape. They didn't have the standing in the community in detention". (If the majority of those in detention are Muslims then of course any non-Muslims would have no standing; just as non-Muslims have no standing in any majority-Muslim region or country  - CM).

'He says Mandaeans should be kept in separate detention from other asylum seekers (correction: they, like all other non-Muslim detainees, should be kept separate from the Muslims - CM) and their claims processed immediately.

(I have a better suggestion.  Sort the 'asylum seekers' into Muslims and non-Muslims.  The Muslims don't get to come to Australia, they get sent straight back where they came from; we do not want openly-declared bullies and persecutors, who are nearly all males of military age, entering our society.  When that is done, the claims of the small minority among the asylum seekers who are clearly non-Muslim - whether Mandaean or Christian, Hindu or Buddhist - can be dealt with as appropriate; I would advise giving asylum above all to bona fide non-Muslims who, like Mr Azuhari, are fleeing from Muslim lands, since to send them back into dar al Islam is to condemn them to almost certain death. - CM).

'Meanwhile Salah Azuhari wants his processing sped up so that he can be reunited with his six children who are stlll in Jordan.  Hana Vieva says Mr Azuhari already has relatives living in Australia.  "He has three siblings who came here as refugees and now have refugee status.  They live in Sydney.  They have had the opportunity to express their religion, believe in what they want to believe, and he feels that he can do that outside the detention centre", she said.

'After threatening to run away, Salah Azuhari has been moved to be closer to the four other Mandaeans on Christmas Island.  He says he feels much safer but that if the other Mandaeans leave he will be completely alone".

For more on the Mandaeans in Australia, who now number about 6500, see this little article from the 'South-West Advertiser', a western Sydney suburban newspaper, which appeared in August 2010.

www.southwestadvertiser.com.au/news/local/news/general/community-leader-helps-mandaeans-rebuild-lives/1916639.aspx

From that article - 'there were about 30 000 Mandaeans in Iraq before the war in 2003 reduced the population to about 5500.  Many fled the country because of the turmoil of the war.  Mr Farham [Mandaean community spokesman, who migrated to Australia 18 years ago after leaving Iraq - CM] says the Mandaeans were persecuted in their country even before the war.

(A very important point that should be emphasised to all our politicians and journalists. Persecution of Mandaeans and Christians has gone on, varying only in degree of severity, throughout the entire period, over a millennium, that Muslims have dominated and ruled Mesopotamia. It is that steady, grinding burden of persecution from Muslims that has reduced the Mandaeans and the indigenous Assyrian Chrisitans to tiny remnants within their own homeland where they were once the majority. - CM).

"I complain less about life having heard so many horrific stories" [from the refugees] Mr Farham said. "Some of their stories, I kid you not, make The Silence of the Lambs sound like a walk in the park"...(I believe him - CM).

'He said the government needed to come up with a reasonable refugee policy and the Immigration Department needed to process applications more quickly".

(Quicker processing for non-Muslims, yes.  For Muslims, no.  If we take in deeply-traumatised survivors of Muslim persecution, such as these Mandaeans, then I cannot see why we must also take in Muslims, the very Muslims who have been gleefully inflicting trauma on Mandaeans and other non-Muslims, not only in Iraq but even - as we have seen in the case of the Mandaean, Mr Azuhari - in detention centres upon Australian soil. - CM).