Muslim Armies in Indonesia (as also in Egypt) Crush Non-Muslim Protesters...Will Anyone Intervene on Behalf of Those Non-Muslim Civilians?
From Australia's ABC, Hamish Fizsimmons reporting.
'Video shows aftermath of Papua crackdown'.
'The ABC has obtained exclusive video which reportedly shows the aftermath of a deadly crackdown by Indonesian troops who attacked an independence rally in the restive province of West Papua.
It's a bit of a switch to have a majority non-Muslim region within a Muslim-dominated state being called 'restive'. Usually those 'restive' areas are majority-Muslim suburbs, provinces or regions within majority-nonMuslim states. - CM
'Six people died
'Died'. No, they were killed. Murdered. They - unarmed civilian protesters - were ither shot or beaten to death by the Muslim soldiers and/ or police. - CM
'and many more were injured after troops and police broke up the meeting of the Third Papuan People's Congress in the province's capital Jayapura on October 19.
'Security forces moved in after the meeting, which was attended by thousands of people, declared independence from Jakarta and decided to elect its own government.
The vast majority of those attending would be at least nominally Christian; others would be secular, and others would be practitioners of Papuan traditional animist beliefs. If Christians - who are generally inclined to put up with whatever government they have - felt it necessary to go so far as to declare independence, one wonders just what the Indonesian Muslim colonial rulers have been doing in recent years, to drive their non-Muslim subjects beyond the point of patient endurance. - CM
'Among the forces involved in breaking up the meeting were Australian-trained elite anti-terrorist troops.
Memo to non-Muslim states. Never give or sell weapons or military training to Muslim entities or states. Those weapons and that training will always be used in acts of aggression against non-Muslims - whether the next-door neighbours, or non-Muslim minorities within the Muslim state, or even - sooner or later - the foolish non-Muslim who has supplied the arms and the training. The equipment with which the Egyptian Muslim army killed Copts in Cairo, was probably supplied by the USA, or bought with US 'aid' money. - CM
'ABC1's Lateline has obtained exclusive pictures claiming to be of the aftermath of the rally, which show a car covered in bullet holes and motorbikes and scooters abandoned by the side of the road.
'The Indonesian government says police fired warning shots to disperse the crowd and made many arrests.
'But six people were found dead after the rally, reportedly from bullet wounds, and six more have been charged with treason.
'The Indonesian government says there were deaths, but not at the site of the Congress, and says the victims' wounds were not gunshot wounds but were caused by a sharp weapon.
Gun or sword, what does it matter? In any case, O Muslim government of Indonesia, I do not believe you, because I know all about the habit that Muslims and Muslim entities have, of lying through their teeth, blaming the victims, and so on. And I know what Muslims tend to do to non-Muslim minorities who refuse to stay in their allah-ordained position of inferiority to Muslims, under Muslim rule, and dare to claim civil and social equality or, worse, try to free themselves of Muslim rule (and Indonesia's seizure of West Papua was not much more 'legal' than Turkey's seizure of most of Cyprus). - CM
'Those who witnessed the violence want the international community to intervene.
Now that is interesting, in light of the enthusiasm with which said 'community' intervened in Libya to assist Muslim rebels (and given the much earlier precedent of intervention to 'save' the Albanian Muslims in the province of Kosovo, and to assist the Bosnian Muslims vis a vis the Serbs. Are you listening, President Obama? Question: will anyone be quite as eager to intervene to rescue non-Muslims who desire to secede from a Muslim entity? - CM
'John Baransano, a Protestant minister in Jayapura who was at the rally,s ays international help is needed.
If a Protestant clergyman feels impelled to say something like that, I suspect that there may be much, much more going on - and much, much more that has already happened in other places - than we are seeing from this attack on one independence rally. - CM
"I call on the churches around the world to care about this. I'm calling for an intervention for us because today's events show that we need a transitional government and this needs to happen to help the people of Papua", he said. "We are now in a dangerous situation and we're calling for a UN intervention to help us".
Makes me wonder what 'sermons' are being 'preached' in the mosques of the Muslim colonists who have settled in West Papua, right now. - CM
'He said he saw people being shot and beaten and others herded into trucks.
"I saw with my own eyes people who were bleeding. They had been hit. We saw how they were terribly harassed", he said.
"They were forced into a truck and ordered to sit down so they wouldn't be seen by others. But if we were up higher, we could see what had been done to them."
'Anglican minister Peter Woods lived in Indonesia for many years and is dedicated to helping West Papuans achieve independence.
He lived in Indonesia for many years. Perhaps he knows how a Muslim society treats non-Muslims, and in particular, Christians; knows that things are not good for the non-Muslim Papuans, and are likely to only grow worse in the foreseeable future, as more and more Muslims move into West Papua, and the push for more and more sharia - which means ever more severe discrimination against and repression of non-Muslims - continues among Indonesian Muslims. - CM
'He was in Jayapura during the Congress and filmed interviews with many of the independence movement's leaders.
'He said the security forces waited until independence was declared at the meeting.
I keep wondering what can have driven the West Papuans to take that step of publicly breaking with the Indonesian state. - CM
"The army, the special police, the Brimob [Mobile Brigade], the Densus 88, which had been along the road for the last three days in various barracks and positioning areas, they all moved in and started firing", he said.
'The Densus 88 unit is Indonesia's elite anti-terror squad and is funded and trained by Australia and the United States.
'Elite anti-terror squad'. Which has just been used to violently crush a peaceful rally of unarmed non-Muslims who had dared to state that they wished to secede from a Muslim-dominated colonial state which has done them little good and much harm over the past 58 years since it seized their province after a distinctly shonky referendum. - CM
'The Australian Government says the training for the Indonesian armed forces emphasises human rights awareness, accountability, and respect for the rule of law, including in Papua, and that it does not train Indonesia's military to counter separatist groups.
If you give someone weapons and military training, they are then free to use it however they may choose. And as for 'human rights awareness, accountability, and respect for the rule of law'...Don't make me laugh. In what part of the Muslim world can you honestly say that any one of those three principles is to be seen consistently being practised? It's pretty much a waste of time to try to teach human rights awareness to practising Muslims whose Quran, in Surah 48: 29, states openly that "Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers, but merciful to one another". The Quran and other Islamic texts inculcate an attitude of hostility, contempt and aggression toward all non-Muslims, whether Jews, Christians, or polytheists (and the native animists of Melanesian Papua would be classified as polytheists, to be given the choice of conversion or death). A central guiding principle of Islam is al-walaa wa' al-baraa, 'loyalty and enmity': loyalty to Muslims only, and enmity - preferably expressed in action - toward non-Muslims. And the only law that Muslims are supposed to respect is sharia, the law of Islam...sharia, which prescribes that non-Muslims must be converted, or subjugated, or killed. Indonesia is not, on paper, governed by sharia; but the assumption that the non-Muslims should know their place and be made to keep their (very subordinate) place vis a vis Muslims, still suffuses the society. The behaviour of the Muslim Indonesian army in East Timor during the period of occupation there, until they were forced out in 1999, was identical with that of every Muslim force that has ever set out to exploit, to crush and indeed to terrorise and annihilate a subject non-Muslim population. - CM
'But Greens Senator Richard Di Natale wants military training halted.
I agree. It is suicidal folly for Infidels to make any Muslim army better-equipped and more efficient at killing people. - CM
"The Australian Government shoudl immediately suspend all support for the Indonesian military. It should, as a matter of urgency, send a fact-finding mission to the region", he said.
Again, I agree. And I have a further suggestion. After the Egyptian army - which like the Indonesian army has benefited from Infidel jizya (oops, 'aid') to become better equipped and more efficient than it would otherwise be - slaughtered Copts in the streets of Cairo, Bishop Suriel of the Australian Coptic church requested that the Egyptian Ambassador be expelled from Australia, as a sign of our country's displeasure. Perhaps those advocating on behalf of the West Papuans should make a similar request. Why should not Australia expel not only the Egyptian but also the Indonesian ambassador, citing as our reason the ongoing gross abuses of the human rights of non-Muslim minorities in both Egypt and Indonesia and their governments' acquiescence and indeed participation in those abuses? - CM
'Reverend Woods believes the violence on October 19 was premeditated.
"It was very well planned and they waited until the declaration had been made", he said.
'Elite police from Jakarta and indonesia's National Commission for Human Rights are investigating the shootings, but there are claims that some of the injured are too afraid to seek treatment for fear they will be arrested.
'One of those is Abraham Kereni, who was a representative at the Congress.
"Then those - the security forces, they immediately held pistols and opened the door of the car of the prime minister", he said.
That is, the man whom these Papuan non-Muslims - bravely, but I think also perhaps foolishly, given their present situation - had chosen as their prime minister. - CM
"it was there that shots were fired. They opened the door and pulled me out. As they were pulling me out, there were three crew that came and hit me."
'A spokesman for Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs says it appears from reports that the police's response to the meeting was disproportionate."
To say the least. - CM